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標題[討論] 到底看環太平洋聯想到福音戰士 有什麼不對呢
時間Sun Jul 14 23:36:41 2013
首先說的是 覺得這篇報導說得很好 再者 這幾天看板上文章 心中有感 只要看環太平洋的人提到福音戰士 文章幾乎都會被噓過 搞得好像這些好心分享看電影心得的人怒犯天條 犯下滔天大罪一般 但是環太平洋的製作團隊都出面說明 電影有點福音戰士的味道 而且大部分的人也都知道環太平洋還有參考其他機器系動漫等 像是鐵人28等等 並不是說環太平洋和EVA福音戰士一模一樣設定 實在不明白 這些噓文的人到底是在激動個什麼勁阿 請問 看環太平洋會聯想到EVA福音戰士 到底有什麼不對阿 如果這些噓文的酸民這麼有料 不是應該要更謙卑嗎 好好地說明教導我們這些不懂的人嗎 常常看到 一些人只會噓文丟出一句話說EVA不是機器人 實在是不吐不快了 說句不客氣的話 只會噓文的這些人 又貢獻了什麼 知道這麼知識 就自以為很了不起 高人一等了嗎 讓你們很有成就感嗎 電影版也是讓大家分享觀影心得的快樂園地 這樣一噓再噓 到底獲得了些什麼呢 最後再問一次 看環太平洋 會聯想到EVA福音戰士 到底是有什麼不對阿??? [情報] 環太平洋導演和編劇談EVA的影響
※ 引述《SolarisGreen (SY)》之銘言： : 故事/編劇 Travic Beacham : I think tonally it’s definitely an influence, because really what blew me : away the first time I saw “Evangelion” was it treated this genre, this sort : of silly genre – or a genre that could be sort of silly, and could be : outlandish and cartoonish – and treated it with a real sophistication. Which : I really liked. I think what I identified less with in “Evangelion” was the : sort of apocalypticism of it, and kind of a surrender to human neuroses or : whatever… : 他認為EVA的調性肯定有影響到電影，讓他非常佩服的就是EVA用非常嚴謹深度的手法去 : 對待這種有點蠢、光怪陸離又很卡通的類型(機器人對巨大怪獸) : 比較不同的是環太平洋沒有那些末世宗教論及心理疾病 : Oh yeah, definitely. I think as a kid, Voltron was definitely a favorite of : mine. Then, I really like Big O. I like the Gunbuster and Diebuster series. I : really like Evangelion and Escaflowne. I can think of so many. It's sort of : like a personal kind of technology. It's really like my primal being in a : weird way. : 他說小時候他喜歡百獸王聖戰士，之後喜歡BIG-O、鋼巴斯達1&2、福音戰士和聖天空戰記 : ...等等。 : 導演 Guillermo del Toro : That's one of the four animes I've never seen. I will acknowledge openly the : influence of Patlabor, gladly. I'll fully acknowledge most Gaiden movies being : an influence, but Evangelion, I have, and they bought it for me before the : movie started and I made it a point not to watch it. I said "I don't know if : it's close or not, but I don't want to be influenced," you know? Now I'm gonna : watch it. I always loved the designs. I actually bought a couple of the toys : because the look is fantastic. I don't know if it's the good guy or the bad guy : but from a purely visual point of view I love it. I will watch it, I'm hugely : influenced by anime; I have no problem with that above board but unfortunately : I haven't seen Evangelion. I'm so attracted to the designs that I'd blindly go : and buy all the toys but my daughter has watched it this year and said "You're : gonna like it." And my daughter is my guru. My two daughters are my contact : with the world. : 戴托羅說沒看過EVA，在電影製作前，因為題材類似，他們有拿EVA給他參考 : 但他不想被受影響，所以當時就決定不看，現在他說他可以看了。 : 因為他一直認為EVA的設計很棒、非常吸引人，所以買了不少EVA的玩具 : 他女兒有看過動畫 而且跟戴托羅說他一定會喜歡 : "I haven't seen Evangelion. I accept you Patlabor, [as an influence] from anime : industry, or, Tetsujin-28, I don't have any problem saying 'I love them', : 'they're an influence for me'. Regarding Evangelion, I have the DVDs, I haven't : opened them, I haven't seen it. Yeah, there is anime influence [in Pacific : Rim], but not from that anime in particular" : 關於日本動畫的影響，他提到機動警察、鐵人28，他雖然有EVA的DVD，但還沒打開。 : -------------------------------------------------- : 總之就是編劇有看過EVA 導演沒看過EVA 但拍完這部準備要去看了 --
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推 noeru:推！！！大推！！！ 07/14 23:37
→ omegamonzx:這個呢 大大您不妨去看我文章 我提到 但沒被噓是為何? 07/14 23:38
→ waijr:見樹而不見林...應去套EVA當然會被其他人吐阿 07/14 23:38
→ noeru:原po小心會被嗆反串喔＠＠ 先幫妳補血！ 07/14 23:38
→ omegamonzx:我提了不只一次EVA 那我本應被噓爆 但為何沒有?想想看 07/14 23:39
推 noeru:塊陶阿原po~你可能會被反eva激動戰士虛爆 07/14 23:41
噓 winnietslock:這個伸手牌的態度...能忍嗎? 是不是我已經老了? 07/14 23:43
→ omegamonzx:呵呵 樓上真有趣 見影就開槍... 07/14 23:43
→ winnietslock:我要很謙卑地跟你說 不能當伸手牌喔 會被看不起喔 07/14 23:43
→ omegamonzx:不好意思 我說noeru 請在我樓上的大大不要介意 07/14 23:43
推 tomo1026:其實是EVA + Gunbuster 07/14 23:43
推 Lester116:什麼是伸手牌?@@ 07/14 23:44
→ SteelKnight:不是不能提，但EVA不能代表整個日本機器人動漫的全部 07/14 23:44
→ noeru:天阿～塊陶阿～噓文又開始了 逢eva必噓 >< 07/14 23:46
→ TouchAgain:其實我好像沒看到有人說eva代表全部吧...我漏看了? 07/14 23:48
推 noeru:根本沒人說eva代表日本動漫全部阿 激動戰士都很會扭曲 07/14 23:49
推 winnietslock:伸手牌就類似...茶來伸手 飯來張口 07/14 23:49
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